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		<title>By: SCRAWL: BioShock PS3 Likely to Have Long Install</title>
		<link>http://scrawlfx.com/2008/07/gamer-starts-online-petition-for-no-ps3-game-installs/comment-page-1#comment-1715</link>
		<dc:creator>SCRAWL: BioShock PS3 Likely to Have Long Install</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SCRAWL: Soul Calibur IV PS3 Install is 2.85GB, 2+MB Installs</title>
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		<dc:creator>SCRAWL: Soul Calibur IV PS3 Install is 2.85GB, 2+MB Installs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FiftyQuid</title>
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		<dc:creator>FiftyQuid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sal

Thanks.  BTW, Gravatar sucks.  Took me forever to get a decent image it wouldn&#039;t enlarge to death.</description>
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<p>Thanks.  BTW, Gravatar sucks.  Took me forever to get a decent image it wouldn&#8217;t enlarge to death.</p>
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		<title>By: CHAOS TACTICS BLOG &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gamer Starts Online Petition for No PS3 Game Installs</title>
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		<dc:creator>CHAOS TACTICS BLOG &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gamer Starts Online Petition for No PS3 Game Installs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@FiftyQuid

Go to gravatar.com and register with the e-mail you used to register here. Set an avatar and it should appear soon enough.</description>
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<p>Go to gravatar.com and register with the e-mail you used to register here. Set an avatar and it should appear soon enough.</p>
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		<title>By: FiftyQuid</title>
		<link>http://scrawlfx.com/2008/07/gamer-starts-online-petition-for-no-ps3-game-installs/comment-page-1#comment-1365</link>
		<dc:creator>FiftyQuid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HDDs fail because they spin too much.  A larger install, 4-5GB, means the hard drive doesn&#039;t have to work as hard and gives it a much longer life.  Solid State Disks (SSD a.k.a FlashDrives) are getting bigger and better, but they are still very pricey.  www.siliconsystems.com sells a 32GB SSD and I&#039;m on the verge of shelling out the $$$ for one.  SSD are by no means infallible either, but they are much more reliable and live longer.  Here&#039;s the SSD URL for any that are interested.  No I don&#039;t work for them.  http://www.siliconsystems.com/resources/DataSheetsGrp.aspx?DSCategory=SiliconDrive%20II%20SATA%202.5&amp;TicketID=27c49b61-a89b-44e6-aef6-59ccd1e67f14)  

@jamhai - Sony doesn&#039;t know how large an install will be, so they can&#039;t warn you.  The game developers are in charge of that, which is why the install size is show on the back of game cases.  However, Sony could place restrictions on the game developers to limit the size.  Like I said before, 1-2GB is fine with me.

I never thought I&#039;d see the day when I ran out of room on my HDD for a new PS game.  As Bill Gates once said &quot;640K ought to be enough for anybody.&quot;

I have an off topic question.  How do you guys get those avatars?  There is no option in my profile for one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HDDs fail because they spin too much.  A larger install, 4-5GB, means the hard drive doesn&#8217;t have to work as hard and gives it a much longer life.  Solid State Disks (SSD a.k.a FlashDrives) are getting bigger and better, but they are still very pricey.  <a href="http://www.siliconsystems.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.siliconsystems.com</a> sells a 32GB SSD and I&#8217;m on the verge of shelling out the $$$ for one.  SSD are by no means infallible either, but they are much more reliable and live longer.  Here&#8217;s the SSD URL for any that are interested.  No I don&#8217;t work for them.  <a href="http://www.siliconsystems.com/resources/DataSheetsGrp.aspx?DSCategory=SiliconDrive%20II%20SATA%202.5&amp;TicketID=27c49b61-a89b-44e6-aef6-59ccd1e67f14)" rel="nofollow">http://www.siliconsystems.com/resources/DataSheetsGrp.aspx?DSCategory=SiliconDrive%20II%20SATA%202.5&amp;TicketID=27c49b61-a89b-44e6-aef6-59ccd1e67f14)</a>  </p>
<p>@jamhai &#8211; Sony doesn&#8217;t know how large an install will be, so they can&#8217;t warn you.  The game developers are in charge of that, which is why the install size is show on the back of game cases.  However, Sony could place restrictions on the game developers to limit the size.  Like I said before, 1-2GB is fine with me.</p>
<p>I never thought I&#8217;d see the day when I ran out of room on my HDD for a new PS game.  As Bill Gates once said &#8220;640K ought to be enough for anybody.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have an off topic question.  How do you guys get those avatars?  There is no option in my profile for one.</p>
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		<title>By: incredibilistic</title>
		<link>http://scrawlfx.com/2008/07/gamer-starts-online-petition-for-no-ps3-game-installs/comment-page-1#comment-1352</link>
		<dc:creator>incredibilistic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another online petition that has its heart in the right place but doesn&#039;t seem to take in mind that developers just might need those HDDs to make their masterpiece.

However, I agree that games like Devil May Cry should not need a 5G install and it is strange that games like Heavenly Sword, CoD4, Uncharted and others didn&#039;t require an install. I can see why a game like MGS4 might need it but not DMC.

And as everyone else has already said a 1 to 2GB install is one thing but 5GB is just a crying shame. 

Maybe instead of a petition that says no game installs how about a mandate for Sony to demand that no install is over 2GB? Chances are that it won&#039;t happen. Like a pimple-faced virgin in high school Sony is willing to take what they can get and will make friends with anyone willing to sit next to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another online petition that has its heart in the right place but doesn&#8217;t seem to take in mind that developers just might need those HDDs to make their masterpiece.</p>
<p>However, I agree that games like Devil May Cry should not need a 5G install and it is strange that games like Heavenly Sword, CoD4, Uncharted and others didn&#8217;t require an install. I can see why a game like MGS4 might need it but not DMC.</p>
<p>And as everyone else has already said a 1 to 2GB install is one thing but 5GB is just a crying shame. </p>
<p>Maybe instead of a petition that says no game installs how about a mandate for Sony to demand that no install is over 2GB? Chances are that it won&#8217;t happen. Like a pimple-faced virgin in high school Sony is willing to take what they can get and will make friends with anyone willing to sit next to them.</p>
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		<title>By: DevilVergilX</title>
		<link>http://scrawlfx.com/2008/07/gamer-starts-online-petition-for-no-ps3-game-installs/comment-page-1#comment-1350</link>
		<dc:creator>DevilVergilX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same I will be ok if they kept the Installs to a 1-2gig limit. But hopefully my HDD wont fail for another like 4-5years. I know the xbox360 HDD fails like in 1-2years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same I will be ok if they kept the Installs to a 1-2gig limit. But hopefully my HDD wont fail for another like 4-5years. I know the xbox360 HDD fails like in 1-2years.</p>
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		<title>By: jamhai</title>
		<link>http://scrawlfx.com/2008/07/gamer-starts-online-petition-for-no-ps3-game-installs/comment-page-1#comment-1349</link>
		<dc:creator>jamhai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sony never warned me all these games would require 4-5 GB installs when i bought my 40GB PS3. Why should I have to spend additional money on a bigger hard drive to play additional games?

@FiftyQuid : I agree. 1-2 GB installs are perfectly fine with me, but 3-5 GB is excessive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sony never warned me all these games would require 4-5 GB installs when i bought my 40GB PS3. Why should I have to spend additional money on a bigger hard drive to play additional games?</p>
<p>@FiftyQuid : I agree. 1-2 GB installs are perfectly fine with me, but 3-5 GB is excessive.</p>
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		<title>By: FiftyQuid</title>
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		<dc:creator>FiftyQuid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a 40GB because I didn&#039;t want the larger 80HDD.  Have you ever lost 80GB of data?  It sucks.  I can&#039;t imagine losing 100GB, 200GB, or 300GB.  I&#039;m around PC&#039;s and UNIX servers all day and one thing I can guarantee you is this:  It is not a matter of IF an HDD will fail, but WHEN it will fail.  In regards to the petition, I don&#039;t really mind the installs.  It gives me time to read the manual, grab a sandwich or get a new beer.  However, a 5GB install is too much.  That&#039;s 1/8 my HDD for one game.  I&#039;d be okay with game installs if they kept them under 1-2GB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a 40GB because I didn&#8217;t want the larger 80HDD.  Have you ever lost 80GB of data?  It sucks.  I can&#8217;t imagine losing 100GB, 200GB, or 300GB.  I&#8217;m around PC&#8217;s and UNIX servers all day and one thing I can guarantee you is this:  It is not a matter of IF an HDD will fail, but WHEN it will fail.  In regards to the petition, I don&#8217;t really mind the installs.  It gives me time to read the manual, grab a sandwich or get a new beer.  However, a 5GB install is too much.  That&#8217;s 1/8 my HDD for one game.  I&#8217;d be okay with game installs if they kept them under 1-2GB.</p>
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		<title>By: BandAiD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BandAiD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a joke this petition is.

Instead of Bawwwing just install a new HDD if size is a concern.  Some people fail to understand why the hard drive was placed in there the first place.

Blu-ray&#039;s transfer rate isn&#039;t very fast thus it would cause some major loading time, so the hard drive was placed in it to speed it up.

I wont be signing this petition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a joke this petition is.</p>
<p>Instead of Bawwwing just install a new HDD if size is a concern.  Some people fail to understand why the hard drive was placed in there the first place.</p>
<p>Blu-ray&#8217;s transfer rate isn&#8217;t very fast thus it would cause some major loading time, so the hard drive was placed in it to speed it up.</p>
<p>I wont be signing this petition.</p>
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		<title>By: DevilVergilX</title>
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		<dc:creator>DevilVergilX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, I don&#039;t mind the installs. I bought a 320gig harddrive so that would last me for at least 50games if they are around 3-4gigs. But I really hate them being so big *Cough*DevilMayCry4*Cough*. I know a lot of normal people don&#039;t how to replace there harddrive, but it does say it on the ps3 manual how you can replace the HDD. I really dont mind because a install is once while changing disc are FOREVER! lets hope dev are start to make the installs smaller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, I don&#8217;t mind the installs. I bought a 320gig harddrive so that would last me for at least 50games if they are around 3-4gigs. But I really hate them being so big *Cough*DevilMayCry4*Cough*. I know a lot of normal people don&#8217;t how to replace there harddrive, but it does say it on the ps3 manual how you can replace the HDD. I really dont mind because a install is once while changing disc are FOREVER! lets hope dev are start to make the installs smaller.</p>
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